Why walking makes for a better conversation

A note from the walk2talk journal — one real study, and one working theory.

The Stanford finding

In 2014, Stanford researchers Marily Oppezzo and Daniel Schwartz published a study in the Journal of Experimental Psychology: Learning, Memory, and Cognition that tested something people had claimed for years — that walking helps you think. Across four experiments, participants who walked, whether outdoors or on a treadmill facing a blank wall, produced noticeably more creative responses than participants who stayed seated. On the standard test used to measure divergent thinking, creative output rose by an average of 60 percent while walking, and part of that boost lingered for a short while even after sitting back down. Notably, the scenery didn't seem to matter much — indoor and outdoor walking produced similarly strong results, suggesting the movement itself was doing the work.

What that has to do with an interview

That's a study about creativity, not honesty — worth being precise about. But after eight years of recording conversations on foot, Émile has his own, less formal observation: people edit themselves less when they're moving. Sitting across a table, facing a camera, invites performance — you can feel yourself being watched. Walking side by side removes that head-on eye contact and gives a conversation somewhere to go if it gets quiet. The pauses feel natural instead of awkward, because a few footsteps happen inside them.

It also happens to suit this particular country. Australia's cities are unusually well built for talking on the move — harbourside paths in Sydney, laneways in Melbourne, river boardwalks in Brisbane. None of that is scientific. It's simply one more reason the format works here specifically, and not only in theory.

A free tip, if you want to try it yourself

Next time you're stuck on a hard conversation — a difficult ask, a piece of feedback, a decision you can't make alone — suggest a walk instead of a meeting room. It won't fix everything. But it changes the shape of the conversation, and that's often enough to get somewhere honest.

Source: Oppezzo, M., & Schwartz, D. L. (2014), Journal of Experimental Psychology: Learning, Memory, and Cognition, reported by Stanford News.

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